Thucydides, Volume 4

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W. Heinemann, 1921 - Greece

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Page 165 - Well, as to the kindness of the divine favour, neither do we expect to fall short of you therein. For in no respect are we departing from men's observances regarding that which pertains to the divine or from their desires regarding that which pertains to themselves, in aught that we demand or do. For of the gods we hold the belief, and of men we know, that by a necessity of their nature wherever they have power they always rule.
Page 131 - Lacedaemonians slowly and to the music of many flute-players — a standing institution in their army, that has nothing to do with religion, but is meant to make them advance evenly, stepping in time, without breaking their order, as large armies are apt to do in the moment of engaging.
Page 167 - And Thucydides (Bk. V, p. 105) : "We must indeed acknowledge that with respect to themselves and the institutions of their own country, the Lacedaemonians practiced virtue in a very high degree, but with respect to their conduct towards the rest of mankind, . . . one may declare that of all men with whom we are acquainted they, most conspicuously, consider what is agreeable to be honorable, and what is expedient, just" (Loeb Classical Library, transl.
Page 157 - Rather we presume that you aim at accomplishing what is possible in accordance with the real thoughts of both of us, since you know as well as we know that what is just is arrived at in human arguments only when the necessity on both sides is equal, and that the powerful exact what they can, while the weak yield what they...
Page 165 - ... we trust that, in point of fortune, we shall through the divine favour be at no disadvantage because we are god-fearing men standing our ground against men who are unjust; and as to the matter of power, that the alliance of the Lacedaemonians will supply what we lack, since that alliance must aid us, if for no other reason, because of our kinship with them and for very shame. . . . Athenians: Well, as to the kindness of the divine favour, neither do we expect to fall short of you therein. For...
Page 167 - ... Realism For of the gods we believe, and of men we know, that by a necessity of their nature wherever they have power they always rule. And so in our case since we neither enacted this law nor when it was enacted were the first to use it, but found it in existence and expect to leave it in existence for all time, so we make use of it, well aware that both you and others, if clothed with the same power as we are, would do the same thing. — Speech of the Athenians to the Melians, Thucydides' History...
Page 151 - ... came to them both from the party now established in Argos and from those who had been driven out, and in the presence of their allies, after a long debate, they passed a vote condemning the victorious faction; they then resolved to send an expedition to Argos, but delays occurred and time was lost. Meanwhile the democracy at Argos, fearing the Lacedaemonians, and again courting the Athenian alliance in which their hopes were centred, built Long Walls to the sea, in order that if they were blockaded...
Page 229 - But in the meantime the stone statues of Hermes in the city of Athens — they are the pillars of square construction which according to local custom stand in great numbers both in the doorways of private houses and in sacred places — nearly all had their faces mutilated on the same night.
Page 217 - It is not possible for us to exercise a careful stewardship of the limits we would set to our empire; but, since we are placed in this position, it is necessary to plot against some and not let go our hold upon others, because there is a danger of coming ourselves under the empire of others, should we not ourselves hold empire over other peoples. And you cannot regard a pacific policy in the same light as other states might, unless you will change your practices also to correspond with theirs.
Page 277 - Peisistratus the younger was eponymous archon (that is, during the tyranny) and, as archon, dedicated the altar of the twelve gods in the Agora and the altar of Apollo in the Pythium (6.